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base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 05:00
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i have a 94kz1000 police with a 1075 bore and 10.5 compression pistons, APE 410 cams i can't keep the base gasket for speeping i've use a copper ,stock and a rubber/alum. one, still no luck all surface where 100% clean and i use high spot and got about 95%surface contact, I heard that 10.5 compression is to much for stock head studs need some advice don't want to spend good money on studs that a don't need.

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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 06:04
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i always spray both sides ofgasketswith coppercoat B)
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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 06:40
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did that done that

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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 06:47
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have you retorqued the nuts on the head? B)
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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 08:02
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Is your crankcase properly vented? It seems like you are getting a buildup of pressure in your crankcase, rings leaking?, which is forcing oil out the base gasket. I also have a leaking base gasket on my KZ1100. I will be sure to spray copper sealant on both sides of the gasket when installing a new one. It is the only bike I have ever had this problem on. I don't see how a 10.5 compression ratio would have an effect on your crankcase pressure unless you have a ring leak. On the other hand, I have never had to address the aftermarket cylinder studs as an issue either....chris3
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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 09:54
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Studs for sure. With all the disassembly you've been doing chasing the leak, the stockers are probably stretched past the max tolerances anyway. My 1075/10.5 hasn't leaked a drop with APE studs and nuts.
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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 13:29
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Is your breather clear? No offense intended, but I've seen some folks cap off the breather without understanding the impact. Ed
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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 14:41
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if it was the breather i would guess valve cover would be blowing gaskets out pretty hard
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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 16:01
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I'd say HD Studs. The stock ones were designed to hold to stock specifications. I have the HD studs on my bike but the head gasket is what started leaking. The one piece gasket I guess isn't the best design, maybe for those guys who drag strip their bikes and take them down every season.
I spoke with a few people and they said they used to sell the two pieced head gaskets. This time around I will cut the gaskets so I can use the stock o ring. You may want to consider cutting the gasket to use the rubber oring. Just a thought.
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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 16:57
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TerryK wrote:
Studs for sure. With all the disassembly you've been doing chasing the leak, the stockers are probably stretched past the max tolerances anyway. My 1075/10.5 hasn't leaked a drop with APE studs and nuts.


hd studs with nuts make a tight 42 ft/lb sandwich.....B)

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Re: base gasket leak

26 Jan 2010 18:01
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Had a chronic leak in my 1000 that just wouldn't go away after original build and then again a year later. Hated having a trickle of oil dropping over the dyno cover onto my boot. I tried to retorque the head nuts and it never felt right as I thought I was going to break a stud or twist it into the cases. Next tear down I checked the stud height and found they varied amongst the same size. I opted to swap out for APE head nuts with properly annealed copper washers which worked great. Another solution was to add another washer (copper and steel) with a smear of gasket sealer between each to stop oil from transferring between them and using stock nuts. Good luck!
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Re: base gasket leak

30 Jan 2010 14:29
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as a last resort, make sure the cases and bottom of the block are ture. they can be out of true from the factory.
I agree with making sure u have adaquit venting as well.
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